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New Canon EOS 70D v 7D

Early this morning (July 2) Canon announced a new Canon camera, the EOS 70D. Almost immediately on the photo forums there is a comparison with the EOS 7D.

Follow the discussion here at Photography-on-the.net. Here are some of the comments:

1. “Regarding price comparisons, you cannot reasonably compare prices of a new 7D that is 4 years old to a newly announced camera. When the 7D first came out, it was $1700.

The best thing you can do is just wait out the release of the camera, and watch the reviews and comparisons that come out. My rule of thumb is usually to wait 1-2 months after a new camera has hit the streets before I decide to buy it. This gives time for the “honeymoon” to wear off.” (TeamSpeed)

2. “They’ve still held back on the burst capability (well, until they release a new firmware for the 70D in 2016!)
70D: 16 raw/65 jpg @ 7fps
7D: 25 raw/103 @ 8fps.

The view through the 7D is going to be nicer too:
70D viewfinder. 98% at 0.95x
7D viewfinder: 100% at 1.00x” (myphotographic)

3. “I have a 7D and wouldn’t sell it to go to a 70D however, some people who couldn’t quite justify a 7D may well be tempted with the 70D.” (Paulstw)

4. “Imo no one even Canon expects 7D users to buy this as an upgrade. It’s targeting different audiences.” (kin2son)

5. “The main thing lacking from the 70D as far as I can see is focus point expansion mode, which is a boon when shooting BIF, some features are attractive, but I shan’t be swapping the 7D for one, but I will be looking forward to see what the 7D2 offers.” (artyman)

6. “The 70d is a good upgrade to the 60d. Nothing more. The 7d is a different segment targeting more advanced photographers. It is also 4 years old now. Despite that, the 7d still holds a few trump cards over the new 70d. Most notably the
– AF options (Spot AF, AF expansion)
– Button function reassignments
– multi function top buttons
– CF card (SD is still slowwww)
– Robust body
– 1fps faster
– Deeper burst depth
– AF settings (not sure of the 70d might have this or castrated version)

Used/refurb prices on 7d is insanely good right now making it a better buy on my books.” (delhi)

Also check out this comparison as posted on The-Digital-Picture.com:

  • 20.2 vs. 18.0 megapixel sensor
  • ISO 100-12800, 25600 vs. 100-6400, 12800
  • Dual Pixel CMOS AF in Live View including Movie Servo AF vs. contrast-only
  • DIGIC 5 vs. Dual DIGIC 4
  • Approx. 98% viewfinder coverage vs. 100%
  • Approx. 0.95x viewfinder magnification vs. 1.00x
  • Touch screen 3.0″ (7.7cm) 3:2 Clear View II TFT, approx. 1040K dots vs. 3.0″ (7.5cm) Clear View II TFT, approx. 920K dots
  • Single Axis Electronic Level in Viewfinder vs. dual
  • 7 fps vs. 8 fps for 40 (JPEG), 15 images (RAW) vs. 130 (JPEG), 25 images (RAW)
  • Shutter Lag of 65ms vs. 59ms
  • Live View coverage of 98% vs. 100%
  • Missing Small RAW
  • SDHC vs. CompactFlash memory cards
  • 23 Custom Functions vs. 27
  • AFMA stored for 40 lenses vs. 20
  • Battery life of approximately 820 vs. 800 pictures
  • aluminium and polycarbonate resin with glass fiber vs. Magnesium Alloy body covers
  • Slightly smaller: 5.5 x 4.1 x 3.1″ vs. 5.8 x 4.4 x 2.9″ (139.0 x 104.3 x 78.5mm vs.148.2 x 110.7 x 73.5mm)
  • Slightly lighter: 26.7 oz vs. 32.2 oz (755g vs. 914g)
  • Built-in WiFi vs. expensive accessory
  • No PC Terminal Port
  • Has additional shooting modes
  • Not compatible with N3-series Remotes

 

7D Image Quality: Soft images or a problem with the camera?

An interesting thread was started a few days ago at Photography-on-the.net about the image quality of the Canon EOS 7D. The original poster (OP) mentioned that the images from the 7D seem softer that those from the Canon EOD 5D when the same lens is used for comparison.

This subject comes up often and one plausible explanation was given by the second responder: “This comes up all the time. The 7D has a rather aggressive anti-aliasing filter as compared to the T2i, 60D, et al. This helps it handle moire a lot better but the down side is a loss in apparent sharpness. The solution is a slight increase in output sharpening.”

“In-camera jpegs have always seemed a bit on the soft side for my taste so I shoot in RAW almost exclusively. I and several others seem to think that when shooting jpegs, a good deal of data is lost in the jpeg compression process that can’t be recovered after the conversion process. So sharpening at this point isn’t as effective. The good news is that it can be dealt with easily. It’s simply a matter of using the picture style editor and editing your styles with a higher sharpness setting. ”

The thread is now more than 10 pages deep and some really good tips and suggestions have been given by other Canon EOS 7D owners. Follow the thread here.

 

Should I upgrade from 40D to 7D?

I own the Canon 40D and the 7D so I was interested in the following thread. The OP wanted to know if the is a big jump in moving from the 40D to the 7D. A very interested discussion was started.

Follow the thread here.

One year since receiving my Canon 7D

Today marks the first anniversary of the delivery of my Canon EOS 7D. After taking about 3600 photography, I can truely say that the Canon EOS 7D is a brilliant camera.

I don’t think I would have complained if it was a 15 megapixel camera. The 18 megapixel is a lot for what I normally shoot so I often shoot mediun RAW. Some of the features I really like are:

1. 19 cross-type AF points
2. Dual-Axis Electronic Level
3. VF (viewfinder) grid
4. “Q” button that allows quick change of common settings
5. Wireless multi-flash support via the pop-up

The are other nice features that I have not used often like video/live view capability and customizable noise reduction settings. But I am pleased with the performance of my Canon EOS 7D.

Canon EOS 7D review by imaging-resource.com

Imaging-Resource.com just posted a comprehensive review of the Canon EOS 7D that is worth reading. It is long but worth the time.

Here are some excerpts from the review:

“The Canon 7D is the digital SLR that many Canon fans have been waiting for, with a list of long-absent features that the lineup has needed to take on cameras like the Nikon D300…”

“The Canon 7D is designed for speed, with dual DIGIC 4 chips to speed processing of these large 14-bit files, as well as keep up with the shutter’s 8-frame-per-second top speed. Even the sensor had to be tweaked to enable such speed, with an 8-channel readout to more quickly draw the image off the sensor.”

“The Canon 7D’s buffer can handle 94 JPEGs at top speed, or 15 RAW images…”

“The built-in flash has a wider range to handle up to 15mm wide-angle lenses, like the new EF-S 15-85mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM, and the flash can also serve as the remote commander for up to three groups of flashes, another first for Canon.”

“Other new features include an electronic level, a RAW button, and a new Multi-function button for quick, programmable access to various functions. And don’t forget the new 19-point autofocus system, complete with a new LCD viewfinder display overlay, complete with a grid, obviating the need for interchangeable screens…”

Full review here

Canon 7D and Diffraction

Apparently there was a lot of talk about diffraction at certain aperture while suing the 50D and the rumors have continued to swirl around the 7D as well.

A photographer did some test to check for himself if the diffraction stories are valid or not.

Follow the thread here at POTN.

 

 

Users’ opinions on 7D AF system

A photographer posted a summary of his experience with the Canon 7D auto-focus (AF) system at POTN. Subsequent posts gave us the opinions and preferences of other photographers who either enjoyed working with the new AF system or were somewhat overwhelmed by it.

It’s worth following the thread at POTN.

What is different about the 7D compared to your previous Canon camera?

There is a thread that started yesterday that provides some user opinions on their Canon EOS 7D. The original poster (OP) noted that the Canon EOS does take some getting use to and so he wanted to know what are others learning about their new camera, what is different from previous Canon digital cameras and what changes are been made to get the best out of the Canon 7D.

Follow the thread here and see if you share some of the views and observations of the posters.

Throughout the thread the new AF System was probably the most mentioned feature that requires some time to learn. Some of the other features were easy to learn if you have/had a 40D or a camera from the 1D series.

If you are considering moving from your present Canon camera to a 7D this is a great thread to read and bookmark.

 

Canon 7D vs the Nikon D300s

Here are excerpts from a Canon 7D review done by Gordon Lang of CameraLabs.com

“The EOS 7D also represents a departure for Canon which at this level always slotted its models in-between those from Nikon. So in the past you’d have the EOS 50D fitting roughly between Nikon’s D90 and D300s for example. Canon also seemed happy to let Nikon have the very high-end cropped frame market to itself, and while models like the EOS 50D overtook Nikon on resolution, the D300 and D300s maintained a dignified lead in viewfinder, AF and drive performance.”

“Not any more though. The EOS 7D is pitched directly against the D300s and clearly intends to become the new high-end cropped body of choice. As such it’s not surprising to find Canon equipping the 7D with a higher resolution sensor along with the addition of more movie modes, but the big shock in today’s often gradually-evolving market is just how much else has been improved – and revealingly much of the inspiration comes from existing Nikon models…”

Compared to Nikon D300s

“Nikon’s D300s is without a doubt the main rival for the EOS 7D. In the past Canon and Nikon used to pitch many of their DSLRs in-between each other, so you’d have, say, the EOS 50D roughly sandwiched between the D90 and D300. But with the EOS 7D, Canon’s aiming for the same high-end cropped-sensor market as Nikon’s D300s – and with similar pricing, both cameras are absolutely going head-to-head.”

“There’s certainly a lot of similarities between the two rivals. Both have tough build quality, APS-C sized CMOS sensors, 100% viewfinders with roughly the same apparent size (the 7D’s fractionally greater magnification off-set by its fractionally smaller sensor), both have 3in screens with VGA resolution, built-in wireless control of flash guns, HDMI ports, on-demand LCD graphics in the viewfinder, external microphone jacks for their movie modes, electronic levelling gauges, metering systems which take colour information into account, and shutter blocks rated at 150k actuations. Both models also sport HD video capabilities, very fast continuous shooting and sophisticated AF systems, but it’s the fine detail within each where the differences really emerge.”

“Starting with the most obvious difference though, the EOS 7D boasts 18 Megapixels to the D300s’ 12 Megapixels. When equipped with a decent lens, the 7D certainly can resolve more detail than the D300s, and despite having 50% more pixels in total, the noise levels are actually quite similar at the lower end of the range. You can see a full report in our results section…”

READ THE FULL REVIEW HERE

7D review from a Nikon shooter

I saw this very interesting post at POTN about a Nikon user reviewing the Canon EOS 7D.

The Nikon user had this to say about the AF of the Canon EOS 7D:

“I shot hundreds of frames of geese and cranes in flight at Bosque. I was using the Canon 400 mm F/5.6 “L” lens. This lens is NOT stabilized, but it is VERY sharp. I shot birds coming straight at me with perfect results. This is the test that any camera has to pass if I am going to recommend it. It’s hard for the autofocus to track something coming right at you and in this case, the system worked. And here the 7D worked perfectly. I also shot birds coming at me with additional birds in the background and the 7D properly selected the front bird and tracked it all the way over my head. Amazing! I shot in all sorts of light. The AI Servo mode simply worked every time. I was extremely impressed. With only 19 auto-focus points, the camera does a super job. Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not about to give up my Nikon D3s. 51 auto-focus points is better than 19. But the D3s costs $5200 to $1700 for the 7D. For the money, the 7D autofocus rocks.”

Follow the thread here and check out the link to the OP’s review.